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Because we all know spamming pictures of kitties will make everything go away. Even if it does, it'll only surface again down the road. Best to tackle it head on no?
Talisin, I can see how you could misread that and it's clear you misread that. BUT, before jumping to conclusions, you should have thought back and remember that I have replied politely to you EVERYTIME you messaged me looking for Doodee (unless I was away). What I shrugged off was not you, but how impolite and brash your approach was. Did you mean any harm? Of coures not, and I knew that but that doesn't detract from the fact it is rather impolite and beyond informal. It didn't bother me too much so I shrugged off your informal and impolite approach and replied regardless. Most of the time you'd realize how awkward you presented yourself and apologize after anyway, properly greet me with a 'hi' or 'hello'. Seriously though, think for a second how you would feel if some individual you're not familiar with messages you in game with 'Where's Doodee' like you were some messenger or kiosk. I personally set up a TS account for you so you could talk to Doodee (even though she's never around) because it was clear the intent wasn't to talk to me (and there was nothing wrong about that). I wasn't knocking you. I brought up that point that I have always been polite and reasonable on a personal level whenever we talked yet you guys throw that all away and group me with something I'm not involved in BUT when I finally agree to get involved, you tell me to keep out. I'm beyond confused I'm almost crying.
Volrath, we've met once before - in the maze of shakrami while you were soloing smn and I was soloing blm. You slapped me (and the two other parties running around the maze killing those worms) several times and called us (|Camp|) (|Thief|). You kept spamming that and slapping us too. I told you to 'put a sock in it' after you spammed enough to get on my nerves. You then went on a rant calling me someone with no morals and decency for stealing someone's camp in the maze, giving me this unnecessary lecture. EVEN though I waited till AFTER you choose a worm before I moved in (which I was forced to move in there because someone trained a ghoul in the other hallway which I went to first BECAUSE I saw you down there first). You then put in your comments on the third line "Noodlebrain is a prick". To which I replied in say, "so I'm a prick eh? I'll show you prick!" but I ran off and out of the maze. I did a check after and you had switch back to your Drk in Kazham and comment edited in the third line "Sigh", mostly likely believing I'd try to train and mpk you.
For the record, no, I'm not mad about that situation, but it's still an amusing moment in my mind and I wanted to point out that it wasn't the first time we've ran into each other. It wasn't a very good impression at that either. Admittedly, my choice of words to tell you to stop wern't greatest at the time and I do apologize for that, but really - it was annoying after a while. BUT, if you say you did not do what I said you did, I fully and sincerely apologize for being an asshole and completely retract my statements and instead reword one statment to 'can be an ass' to which we are all capable of. Fair deal?
As for the KFC issue, honestly, I don't even know who is part of KFC as I've never ran into them (I hate camping HNMS - you'll rarely ever see me there. I don't care for items so you can scratch that rare and almost put NEVER see me around them unless Monarchy is currently really short and need people), so I'd love to be enlightened who it is you guys keep talking about. A few people have left the shell since that day too but you'd be surprise they are not the devil you all make them out to be. Is it lame for them to be so dedicated? I don't know, I have no right to judge how they spend their money and time. Does it surprise and perplex me their dedication to be up so late? Sure as hell does. Do I know it frustrates you guys? Yeah, of course but as long as they don't mpk you (which you say they have tried) or cheat (via scripts and such - which you also claim) then it isn't really a problem. If they are doing the two mentioned, then yeah, that's definately an issue (though the botting and scripting you cannot prove, no matter how strongly you believe they are).
Shiloh, notice how I kept to only individual cases and only those involved? If you weren't being remotely assholish, it wasn't directed at you. Notice how I did not expand this to the rest of CKD either? Also notice how I asked Murph and Icy to stop as well? But it appears to some people I want to pick a fight instead of solve one, hence they chose to go the knee-jerk defensive rant path. I can understand why Yarr would, because I called him an asshole and nobody likes to be called an asshole even though they are being an asshole.
Yarr was more then unreasonable on those occasions, you yourself apologized for his unprovoked comments in sky, or have you already forgotten? Really now, how do you honestly tell someone they are being an unreasonable asshole? I guess I could say 'you're not playing very nice and being a naughty boy'. Right? Threw me a bone here. You can sugar coat it all you want, but being an asshole is being an asshole regardless. I was being an asshole when I called Volrath an asshole. I said I'd tried to be objective and I did, but cleary I swayed a bit didn't I? In anycase, with regards to Yarr, it wasn't a one time thing either, you know that, you can't deny that. And as I said, how does acting the way he has publically in game help the situation? I understand he's upset and disatisfied - I don't blame him, I don't fault him for that, I even said that in my previous posts (Did anyone read my post? Seriously.), but it still doesn't justify it, not one bit. Yarr said I changed because I called him out for being an ass and I honestly don't understand his logic behind that. That was merely my point. You can say why am I not saying the same thing to DragonB or Aiame. I have tried on my end but to no avail. What do you want me to do? Run over and stick a gun to their head and force them to talk? I thought okay, this isn't working over here, let's try the other side, maybe they would be a little more receptive. Bzzt, nope. Ok, now I'm stuck in the middle confused and I have both sides angry at me, who was originally never involved. Oh joy.
If monarchy members, actually if anybody I know was repeatedly being as unreasonable as some of the people here in the past have, I'd call them on it too and tell them to stop being unreasonable assholes. I mentioned that in my post too. You are being a dick. Stop.
I don't have personal issues with Yarr, belive it or not, I never have. I don't think anybody read my post at all. I have issues with his obvious poor choice of words and poor choice of conduct to relay his more then obvious disatisfaction. Would you honestly say that all his angry efforts and words in the past were well placed and helped improve the situation?
I said I didn't want to comment, because I wasn't directly involved and I still stand by that. The only thing that remotely connects me to the situation is me being part of Monarchy to which those in question are also a part of. I commented because Yarr called me brainwashed for calling him out on his childish actions and I was asked to do a personal favour. If you read that post on Monarchy, it didn't mention anything involving his issue with Aiame and his issue with Dragonb. Only him being unreasonable (albeit crudely). I didn't take sides then and I still have taken sides today. I have stayed to best of my ability out of whatever issues you guys had with Aiame and Dragonb, because if I would say something, as already so kindly demonstrated - I'd be told to 'stfu, why am I commenting?' Do you, or do you not want this to be resolved? At this rate, it doesn't seem so. Yarr also tried to pull me into this when I first joined Monarchy. He messaged me and asked me a few questions like if OBW had merged with Monarchy. He then comes out of the blue and says he and Aiame have a history. To which I responded with and unhappy face "=/". The conversation didn't go any further, Yarr thanked me for his time and bid good night. I'm part of Monarchy. You label Monarchy a bunch of loot whore items and basically label us 'NA KFC of Ifrit". I'm also part of OBW. By your own reasoning, OBW is also a bunch of loot whore items because they accept me in their LS. Does it sound reasonable? See what generalizations get you? Are we all guilty of generalizing? Of course~! But that doesn't make it anymore right.
Yarr, I have always been reasonable with you so to see you keep prodding and poking with your comments in game (repeatedly) was definately not expected. What do you expect me to feel? I have always treated you with respect the few times we talked and ran into each other. I let alot of it slide simply BECAUSE I knew you were upset over an issue with Aiame and Dragonb. It was your way to blow off steam, fine, I could live with that - but you kept doing it repeatedly and unprovoked.
Seriously, what do you guys want? You want us to do something or say something. We don't want to because we were not involved and we don't have all the facts to satisfy our questions before acting or commenting (you know, try to get both sides of the story before making a decision? Doesn't matter how strong one's side might be, you still need the other side). When we do finally comment or try to act, we're told to stfu. Lovely~! Seriously, make up your minds.
And I know, you guys will never like Monarchy for the simple fact that there is an issue between many CKD members and Aiame. I even admitted that both linkshells will generally never be on friendly terms. That's why I said if we even manage to resolve the staff issue, it wouldn't resolve anything because you'd guys just go back to rude comments and bashing because of issues you have with Aiame. Aiame did not take anything from you guys. She didn't steal anything. She didn't twist your arm, she didn't force you with a gun to your head. So stop calling her a thief. You guys said she complained and whined till she got her way. You guys did it to keep her happy. Was she wrong? If what you guys are saying is true, YEAH, she was wrong to some degree. But really, you guys were using each other for a greater goal. Her to 'leech' (as you guys put it) items and you guys used her in the grand scheme of things for higher achievements. Some of you say she was hardly any use at all and not a key player, a few others says she was a key player. Something's definately not right. All I know is there was some silly issue with Amemet that was never resolved and clearly will never be resolved.
You guys keep pointing to this thread about who started it but if you read my post, I kept pointing to past actions not actions or words involved this thread but you all ignore that for some odd reason. I even agreed it was a damn joke. Seriously, did you guys read my whole post? I even asked Icy and Murph to stop. I asked my sister to stop. I replied to this post because someone ASKED me a favour and I'd replied I'd do the best I could considering the personal situation I am currently in outside this game. My name being mentioned and labelled brainwash was a small motivating factor too as I already mentioned.
Our linkshell likes to go to Sky. We like to go to Sky alot. Do we go out of our way to mpk you guys and steal the pop NMs? No. Do we heckle you and make rude comments in say when we run into each other camping water? No. When you guys go kill one pop NM, we go kill another pop NM. We mind our own business and we keep to ourselves when we are up there. Really, what is the problem? Up there, it's a first serve, first come basis. We're not cheating, we're not voke botting. We hang out up there and while we joke around, we kill pop nms as linkshell. You make it seem like we don't enjoy hanging out in each other's company and having fun while we are up there. Some people like to experience alot, some people like to work witih each other and help each other get items they want. I'm sorry if people have items they want, but they aren't stealing them or going through unsavoury means to obtain them. I have exactly one abjuration to my name that I wear, and a few other misc items (genbu shield, genbu helm, suzaku boots) that I got because they were gonna rot and I made sure nobody else wanted them before lotting. I pass on everything that drops, be it a lousy wind crystal to million gil items since I frankly don't care about the items, I just enjoy the company of those in Monarchy. I do not lot on anything and just pass, immediately if I know people would like an specific abjuration or item. So it makes me laugh and I serioiusly love it when I see people who don't know me sit back and call me a loot whore with the rest of the linkshell. Yarr, you used to ask me which pop NMs we killed, and I replied which ones we killed to the best of my knowledge (I was new to sky at the time, other then my brief stay with Sentinels, I didn't know the names of the NMs and their spawn times). If you asked that today and I'm involved in sky events, I will tell you that so you don't have to go wondering if it's been killed yet. I reply in honest to the same questions to other people in other linkshells. I have always been polite and reasonable when you messaged me and you have always done the same in return. Everybody who's mad/upset/disappointed (whatever criteria fits you) at you calls you unreasonable and an asshole (me included). I know though, for a fact you can be reasonable because I've talked to that reasonable Yarr. Where is that Yarr that I associate myself with? He hasn't been present lately, atleast not infront of me and that has me disappointed.
I came here to try to open lines of communication that's sorely lacking and that's been bitched about for god knows how long (admittedly through no fault of yours because if people want to ignore you, they will ignore you regardless if you are an ass or not but I'm going out on a limb based on Mikey's word that you seriously tried, don't make my faith placed in you turn out to be wrong). I reach out in hopes to solve the issue and my hand gets slapped away. My offer still stands if you truly want to resolve this. I'll be honest and say I don't know HOW we're gonna resolve this, but it's good to start somewhere no? Or would you rather continue this little senseless and unnecessary feud with pent up frustration and disatisfaction? Cyix is open to talk too, not just myself.
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