Patch 1.15a, which is set to go live Wednesday, February 2, will contain a number of changes in line with the wealth of player feedback we have continued to receive, such as the way in which skill and experience points are awarded based on party composition or enemy rank, and the addition of a number of new text commands.

Read all of the details.

ok so

party exp up

weak mob exp down
hard mob exp up

now lets hope they make it possible to LFG

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I don't see where it says they're lowering solo SP. The way I read it they're saying the drastic decline in SP past 20+ is a problem they're fixing.

oh gotcha, i read "For players engaging in solo battle, the amount of skill and experience points currently awarded after rank 20 falls off sharply." as solo exp nerfed

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When you actually read the whole thing, it says that it drops off currently. They're alleviating that 20 through 23.

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so we can just solo to 23 before ever partying now

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Yah, so what it sounds like is that they plan to allow you to be able to solo to 23 in a reasonable amount of time. I don't know if this means they'll be bumping the SP back up for 20-22.99, or if they will simply be adding more monsters that are easier to kill for the "reduced" amount. Either way, that basically falls in line with the idea of soloing to 23 (if you want), so that you can then grab R30 battle leves.

Looks to me like leve-linking will still be the king of SP gain. The more stars, the higher the mob level is, and so on top of the boost to party SP gains, the higher leveled mob should also come with increase to SP. So leve-linking should be quite impressive (Hopefully) come patch time tomorrow.

That being said, I think both of the proposed changes look promising for grinding parties, too. If it gets implemented in the way that we hope (Perhaps that's a big "if", I dunno...), then I can see the return of groups of people banding together to roam around the overworld, killing monsters.

Sure would be nice to see the revival of our ~6 person parties we did around 20-33 that were a lot of fun. Not to mention that it'd be good to have this go live again, so when people group up, they could also go out and target mobs that our crafters need, like toad skins, or cooking ingredients, or dye moss, etc.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this makes it easier for us to rank up. Depending on how it plays out tomorrow, I'm going to propose an event schedule for leve-links and such, so that we can really start burning through the SP. I want more CKD in the 40+ rank range!

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I'm worried this will also apply to solo play "The amount of skill and experience points available from enemies ranked lower than a player will be reduced, but defeating enemies ranked higher than oneself will now yield greater amounts."

If so, we are royally fucked if the party SP change isn't good enough for people to start exp-ing in groups. Soloing anything but coblyns is slow enough, I hope they don't nerf it completely. I'm gonna solo my way to 36 tonight, then cross my fingers and hope for the best!

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I understand where you're coming from. It seemed like 1-20 was just too good to pass up during the last SP Change, so that was the main driving force behind my getting everything up to rank 20. I'm really glad that I did that now, since I won't have to worry about anything < 20 until new classes are released.

I'm interested to see how soloing will work now.

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I'm unsure if this change will be effective or not. The main reason why parties dropped off the face of the planet after the initial change wasn't so much due to the amount of SP given, but the fact that anything above your level one shots your entire party. I don't see how making those mobs dispense more SP will change anything if they still one shot your entire party.

It also sounds like speed killing lower level mobs in dungeons might be nerfed.

Either this patch will be the godsend that reinstates 6 man classic parties - or - it will completely kill any form of leveling outside leves altogheter. Will have to wait and see.

ps: as a side thought....
In an effort to make every mob, even eventually nm's, soloable in the game they came up with a crazy damage calculator directly linked to rank vrs rank. Problem is, it only works within a small window of a scenerio and the rest of the time it completely f's up the entire game. I'm greatly hoping they do away with this.
I understand their reasoning why a THM should be able to go fight a gobbue on his own at high level if he shoudl wish to, but that doesnt mean he should be able to tank as well as any given gladiator at same rank. Merely because the calculator is limited to rank only with the pysical stats having little influence.

Sure, a high level THM should be able to solo, but I thnk that the ability to should have lied in the utilization of action bar abilities and gear - and not so much just because he's high level he can.

I'm not picking on THM just the first non-tank job that came immediately to mind for example sake.

yea kio, its yet another thing i liked better about ff11. you could be level 75 but go whack a dunes leech and it still takes like 3 or 4 hits. ur dmg capped off around 250 or something. not here, im hitting monsters for like 3000 now. and yea the worst part is thats what monsters can do too.

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