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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:36 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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Speaking of my monitor... I was looking into getting another one, but I doubt I will. I'm 3 versions back now (I have a U3011). Fun fact, I noticed mine was delivered one year ago today haha.


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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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a sturdy woman.

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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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What do you guys think of this look? A little bit of green on the top of my onion.
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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:33 pm 
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If there was something more akin to a frontal fist and/or we could match our own shapes together to make whatever we wanted, I'd make one that looked like the badges they wear.

I'm really not a big fan of that snake, lol. Wish it was more of an actual cobra.

Luckily, I think you can keep changing the emblem in-game, since there's a company permission for it. I don't think we need to settle on something right away, we can keep tweaking it til we're happy with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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another vote for the fist. it fits better the original CKD logo from the movie. but yeah i hope we can make our own using shapes. as forthe benchmark it was about the same numbers lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:45 pm 
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Ability changes from Phase 3>4, shamelessly stolen from Reddit:

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Paladin:

Riot Blade Combo potency increased from 200 -> 230
Rage of Halone Combo potency increased from 240 -> 260
Sword Oath: Auto attack potency increased from 25 -> 50
Shield Swipe: Potency Increased from 170 -> 210
Awareness: Reduced oncoming crit chance increased from 15% - 25%
Shield Oath: Both oncoming damage reduction and outgoing damage reduction flatlined at 20%
Circle of Scorn: Base potency increased from 30 -> 100. DoT Potency now 30.

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Monk:

-No longer has Gladiator as a sub-class.
-Now has Marauder as a sub-class.
Second Wind: Now 650 potency cure instead of 15% max hp. Cure potency scales with attack power.
Touch of Death DoT potency reduced from 40 -> 25.
Fist of Fire Damage increase reduced from 10% -> 5%
Howling Fist potency reduced from 190 -> 170

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Warrior:

Maim: Combo Potency increased 180 -> 190. Damage bonus increased from 10% -> 20%
Mercy Stroke Potency reduced from 250 -> 200.
Defiance: "Damage dealt reduction" decreased from 35% -> 30%
Butcher's Block Combo Potency increased from 260 -> 280
Inner Beast Potency increased from 260 -> 300 -Changed to absorb 300% of damage dealt
Storm's Path Absorption Shield buffed to 50% of damage dealt with no max hp cap up from 20% of damage dealt capped at 10% max hp.
Storms Eye Combo Potency Increased from 230 -> 270 Now also applies reduced healing on target by 50%

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Dragoon:

-No longer has Archer as a sub-class.
-Pugilist has been added as a sub-class.
Keen Flurry: Parry rate increased from 20% -> 80%
Vorpal Thrust level reduced to 4
Keen Flurry Level increased to 6
Life Surge: Healing Component Removed. -Now grants a shield up to 10% of maximum hp.
Invigorate: TP granted buffed from 300 -> 500.
Jump: Potency increased from 180 -> 200.
Phlebotomize: DoT potency increased from 10 -> 20.
Blood For Blood: Increases Damage Dealt by 30% (up from 20%)

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Bard:

Hawk's Eye: Additionally Grants 15% DEX
Windbite: DoT Potency increased from 40 -> 45
Quelling Strikes Level lowered to 36.
Flaming Arrow level increased. Potency Increased from 25 -> 35

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White Mage:

Stone: THM removed from list of classes.
Cure: Potency increased from 300 -> 400. ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Cleric Stance: SCH added to the list of available classes.
Protect: ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Medica: Potency Increased from 250 -> 300.
Raise: ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Cure II: Potency Increased from 500 -> 650.
Stoneskin: ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Regen: Potency increased from 50 -> 150.
Cure III: Potency increased from 400 -> 550.
Medica II: Potency Decreased from 350 -> 200. -Regen potency increased from 50 -> 100.

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Thaumaturge:

Thunder: Total potency increased from 190 -> 240. ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Surecast: ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Scathe: Potency increased from 100 -> 120 (With trait from 200 -> 240)
Thunder II: Total potency increased from 250 -> 295. WHM removed from list of classes.
Swiftcast: ACN/SMN/SCH added to list of available classes.
Thunder III: Total potency increased from 300 -> 340.
Blizzard III: Potency increased from 200 -> 220.
Fire III: Potency increased from 200 -> 220.
Firestarter: Proc chance increased from 30% -> 40%


And Arcanist stuff:

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Arcanist:

-Sub classes are Conjurer and Thaumaturge.

(Lv1) Ruin: 80 potency. WHM, BLM, CNJ, THM
(Lv2) Bio: 40 Potency for 18s. WHM, BLM, CNJ, THM
(Lv4) Summon: Summons a caster/healer-type pet. (DEPENDS ON JOB EQUIPPED)
(Lv6) Aetherflow: Restores 20% of maximum MP. Grants 3 stacks of Aetherflow until expended.
(Lv8) Enhanced Aetherflow I: Grants an addtional stack of Aetherflow.
(Lv8) Energy Drain: 150 Potency. If under the effect of Meta Ether absorbs 50% of damage as hp and restores MP.
(Lv10) Miasma: 20 initial potency. 35 potency for 24s. Disease: Reduces hp recovered by Cure spells by 50% and heavy+40% for 24s
(Lv12) Virus: Reduces target's STR/DEX by 15% for 10s. WHM, BLM, all classes.
(Lv14) Int boost 1: INT+2
(Lv15) (CLASS QUEST) Summon II: Summon a tank/support pet. (DEPENDING ON JOB)
(Lv16) Int boost 2: INT+4
(Lv18) Sustain Sacrifices 10% max hp to continuously restore 8% pet hp over 10s. Cannot execute if under 10% hp.
(Lv20) Enhanced Aetherflow II: Grant 2 additional stacks of Aetherflow.
(Lv20) Enhanced Action Damage I: Appears to give +10% action damage bonus.
(Lv22) Ressurection: Raises a target in a weakened state.
(Lv24) (Trait) 20% chance on pet crit to give you 20% spell speed for 8s.
(Lv26) Bio II: 35 potency DoT for 30s.
(Lv28) Causes Virus to also reduce INT/MND by 15%.
(Lv30)(CLASS QUEST) Bane: Spreads Bio, Bio II, OR Miasma to all nearby targets for their remaining time. If Aetherflow effect is up, 15% chance for DoT durations to reset.
(Lv30)(SCHOLAR). Succor: Restores target hp. Potency of 300. Erects a barrier nullifying damage equal to the amount of hp restored. When heal crits, barried doubles.
(Lv30)(SUMMONER) Summon III: Summon an attacking pet.
(Lv32) Int boost III: INT+6
(Lv34) Eye For An Eye: Places barrier on target or pet for 30s. Anyone who strikes shielded target has a 20% chance to have their damage reduced by 10% for 20s. WHM, BLM, all classes.
(Lv35)(SCHOLAR) Succor II: Restores Hp in an area around the caster. Potency 150. Grants a shield to each member healed that nullifies damage equal to the cure.
(Lv35)(SUMMONER) Fester: Deals 100 potency on a target per DoT (Bio, Bio II, Miasma). Only self applied DoTs work and must be under Aetherflow effect. 10s CD.
(Lv36) Enhanced Energy Drain: Doubles MP gained from energy drain.
(Lv38) Ruin II: 80 potency. Blind for 10s.
(Lv40) Enhanced Aetherflow III: Grants 3 additional stacks of Aetherflow.
(Lv40) Enhanced Action Damage II: Increases Action damage by 30%.
(Lv40)(SCHOLAR) Leeches: Removes a single detrimental effect on target. 1s cast time
(Lv40)(SUMMONER) Tri-Disaster: AoE Bind on target. 30 Potency.
(Lv42) Miasma II: 20 initial AoE potency around caster. 10 potency DoT for 15s. Disease.
(Lv44) Reduces Eye For An Eye CD to 120s.
(Lv45)(SCHOLAR) Sacred Soil: Creates an area where everyone inside takes 10% less damage. Duration 15s. 20% Next Succor II will cost no MP. Can only proc under Aetherflow.
(Lv45)(SUMMONER) Spur: Increases a pet's physical/magical atk power by 40%.
(Lv46) Rouse: Increases cure magic potency and damage deal by pet by 40%. When roused, pets are immune to all detrimental effects.
(Lv48) Reduces CD of Rouse to 60s.
(Lv50) Shadow Flare: Placed AoE of 25 potency for 30. 5% chance of inflicting Slow to targets.
(Lv50)(SCHOLAR) Lustrate: Restores 20% of Target's maximum hp. 1s GCD. Only available under Aetherflow.
(Lv50)(SUMMONER) Enkindle: Allows pet to use its signature attack. 5m Recast.


And, finally, pet abilities:

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Emerald Carbuncle
-Gust: 90 potency wind damage
-Backdraft: 80 wind potency knockback
-Downburst: AoE 80 potency
-Shining Emerald: Extends Masters DoT effects by 15s.

Topaz Carbuncle
-Shining Topaz: AoE 70 potency. Increased Enmity.
-Gouge: Single target 70 potency increased enmity.
-Curl: Decreased damage taken on pet by 20%.
-Storm: Delivers an attack for 60 potency that stuns.

Scholar Pet Abilities

Fairy (2 forms, support and healer)
-Whispering Dawn: AoE regen around pet. Potency 100 for 21s. 30s recast.
-Embrace (both forms): 300 potency cure.
-Silent Dawn: Silences for 1s. 40s recast.
-Fey Glow: Increases Spell speed around pet by 30% for 30s. 60s Recast. Cant use at same time as Fey Light.
-Fey Covenant: Increases Magic Defense around fairy by 20% for 20s. Recast 2m
-Fey Light: Increases skill speed around pet by 30% for 30s. 60s Recast. Cant use at same time as Fey Glow.
-Fey Illumination: Increases Cure magic potency around pet by 20% for 20s. Recast 2m.

Summoner Pet Abilities

Titan Egi
-Mountain Buster: 70 AoE potency around Titan. Increases Enmity. 15s Recast
-Rock Buster: Single Target 85 Potency
-Earthen Ward: Decreases damage suffered by pet by 20% for 20s. 2m recast.
-Landslide: 70 potency stun. 40s Recast.
-Enkindle: Earthern Fury - AoE 200 potency. Additional effect: Razed Earth.

Ifrit Egi
-Crimson Cyclone: 105 potency stun. 40s CD
-Burning Strike (?): Single target attack potency of 120.
-Radiant Shield: 50 potency damage everytime Ifrit is attacked.
-Flaming Crush: AoE 105 potency. 30s Recast.
-Enkindle: Inferno - Conal 200 damage. 20 Potency fire DoT for 15s.

Garuda Egi
-Wind Blade: Wind Potency of 100.
-Aerial Slash: Deals AoE wind dmg around target. 90 Potency.
-Contagion: Extends master's DoTs by 15s.
-Shockwave: 90 dmg knockback.a
-Enkindle: Aerial Blast - 250 AoE dmg.


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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:14 pm 
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I didn't look through the entire list of changes but the ones I saw seem appropriate. crappy spells like thunder get buffs, combos get boosted. lancer moves get re-arranged.

@whisp them mutton chops are fine but the moustache is lame.
Re: The Emblem. I'd lean towards something in the yellow and back colors but nonspecific like the 3 / mark one.


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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
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The first would be cooler if it wasn't the generic Pugilist icon :( I also wish there was a bigger snake or a cobra. Or a different looking fist emblem.

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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:23 pm 
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the emblem should be circular.

Personally, i like the snake.. The three diamonds look ok too. It's sort of reminiscent of the actual fist logo.
The pug fist looks cheesey like MS Word clip art or a wingding or something.


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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:25 pm 
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i actually kinda like the 3 diamonds. they are kinda like knuckles. and simpler / easier to decipher from a distance. the snake from a distance just looks like a blob.

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Kioko wrote:
looks cheesey like MS Word clip art

well i mean i made the emblem in MS paint lol... that might be why

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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:27 pm 
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lol sorry Whisp

PS: I like the touch of green in your CC picture too.


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 Post subject: Re: Benchmark 2 (Character Creator)
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:28 pm 
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Yeah a circle works better if we're trying to re-create this:

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Oh, and don't forget that you apply a pattern to the background, it's not just a solid color. Using the example, and looking at the list of dat mined stuff, we can see the various pattern masks applied, with white being one color and black being the other.

May just end up sticking with a solid color, but some kind of very subtle pattern (like the explosion style one that goes outward from the center) might look good with two similar shades of yellow.

EDIT: I mean these:

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Something like 4,3. That said, depending how the diamonds scale, something like 1,5 might go well with it.

Again, I'm talking subtle color change here, just so it's not quite so bright-ass "in your face" yellow.


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i dont like the circle as much, even if it is true to the emblem

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the circle doesn't work well due to all the negative space relative to the origional


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I used the term negative space like I have any idea what it means > > excuse me i'm going to move to san francisco and smell my own farts.


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That depends on the size of the icons, which we're not certain of just yet, the dat mined screenshots are annoyingly all different sizes.

What I mean by the background btw. I tried putting the "snake skin pattern" (3,8) on it:

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meh

looks like a moustache

(a really epic one tho)

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i like the snake skin pattern. as long as it really is faded like that.

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lol sorry Whisp

PS: I like the touch of green in your CC picture too.


its ok, kio. but, never underestimate the power of >> MS Paint <<

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